Round 15: TITANS vs WESTS TIGERS (2023)

Dubs a dub. Tigers do a good job of scrambling the ruck and violently compressing and stretching the D line so I'm happy enough with how we managed that, granted they were without Api for most of it. They did also make a fair amount of errors so didn't really build much pressure that we had to defend for sustained periods.

Our work with the ball was good as usual but second half errors and poor decisions were still there under fatigue. AJ showed why he's still the top dog.

Mo & Tino tremendous bar a bit of sloppy D in the 2nd (wrap the ball up ffs), and JJ made a big difference to our middle. Really highlights how big the gap is between our best 4 middles and the rest.

Verrills did a lot of good on both sides of the ball. I think Randall is about the best backup 9 you could hope for, but what Verrills brings to the middle on D, his effort areas, and work with the ball, makes us a much better side.

Schoupp's inabiity to hit and stick is becoming a target. He's got good sense of when and how to go from passive to jamming, his kick chase effort is great, he doesn't shy away from the contact and he makes decent decisions (IMO) but he's just not wrapping up the ball carrier and unless he's pushing them back inside, it's detrimental. My theory is that he's not comfortable tackling with his left shoulder and that's why he keeps giving his opposite the outside (and puts himself in a weaker position) or goes chest to chest where the intent is great but unless you've got a big wingspan, you're just going to get bumped. He needs coaching, or to be on the other side of the field. Or both. BK is just as bad but he's got right-edge players coming at him and I've gone on about that enough. His contact has been an issue for years.

Tanah was good again and is continuing to build. His contribution was again an important part of how well we're using the ball and his kicking game is doing us plenty of favours.

Happy with Klese's work with the ball but he's still got some big issues defensively in both the contact and with his reads. Would like to see him getting more carries on exit sets.

JC has a way to go if he's going to be a 6 but he was better than the week before and just seems to be around the ball when things happen. It's something you want on the field. The way he planted that ball for the try looked so effortless at full-pace..not many get to that like he did.

Overall, and I'll focus on D here because we all know we can attack fine, I don't think we really got stress-tested to expose our problems but I thought it was clear Joliffe made a difference in the middle during our usual meltdown time-period. We're still not dong a good job at wrapping the ball up, and we're not sticking well enough on first contact across the park - both of these get amplified in a) the second half and b) in certain field position. Liu (who's goal line defence is the antithesis of his defence on the rest of the field) & Haas getting ran over once a week by a middle on the line is just not good enough either.

Shoutout to Phil Sami in game 100 who took 28 carries for 290m....huge. He's twice the player when on the right wing like T says. Happy to see him bag a try too.

Lastly...bitter sweet seeing Jahream Bula do so well. As everyone prob knows, he was spotted & signed by us when he was coming through Keebra and at that stage wasn't even the best fullback in their school side so was playing left centre. We banked on his athletic traits, developed him through JTS and gave him a pathway to NRL but he decided to try and play pro Basketball a few years ago, so walked away from RL altogether. Then earlier this year, now living in Sydney, decides he wants to play footy again and falls into the Tigers lap by asking his Tigers-contracted friend (and Keebra captain) Trey Peni to get him a spot in their JF side. Talk about luck.
 
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Some thoughts on last nights game:

Good
1. AJ and JJ made huge differences to the team.

2. Boyd started to show some good creativity in his running where he finally started to square up the defence with one occasion creating the gap for Haas to score.

3. Haas is improving and has really good carries but needs to be more involved in the hit ups. Also Needs to hit harder in defence and use his shoulders more at first contact but overall a much improved performance and gives some strike on the edge.

4. Mo is continuing to be a machine and is also improving his defence. Some of his hits were immense.

Not so good
1. First 20 minutes of the 2nd half we were awful and were not controlling the ruck and it looked like the 2nd half was going to be another one that got away. It was the sheer bad play by the Tigers who continually turned over possession enabled us to hold on. The 2nd 20 minutes of the 2nd half was better after we were able to score that we took the momentum away from the Tigers.

2. Schoup. Had hands like feet and lost posssession a number of times. It is not the first time that this has happened.

3. The sooner we move Stimson to the middle the better as we have not strike at all on his side of the field and was more effective when he moved or appeared to have moved to the middle.

4. Apart from JJ, the bench really showed the gap to the starting line up. This is something we have talked previously on and needs attention in the offseason.

5. The expansive play in the first half is very much used a lot less in the 2nd half and this may be due to fatigue and/or the quality of the bench players not having the skills to execute it consistently but it is obvious we are not as effective attacking wise in the 2nd half over a 40 minute period. This combined with our lack of control of the ruck in the first 20 minutes of the 2nd half allowed the Tigers back in the game but Tigers were just awful with the ball in hand.

6. Need to get more out of Lui who was only the field for 15 of the last 50 minutes. Not sure why he was taken off in the 2nd half after a brief stint of 15 minutes and he was not injured so i am not sure what Holbrooks thinking is there but a starting lock needs to have a more balanced set of minutes particularly when we are fatigued in the 2nd half.

It is interesting to note in the NRL stats that the Titans had 32 ineffective tackles to the Tigers 9. I would suggest these were mostly in the 2nd half.
 
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Haha burn our challenge after 7 minutes. Tino is not a tactical captain

a quality required in all captains is trust of their team mates. Stimson ran at Tino and was extremely adamant. Cant blame Tino for the challenge.

The whole team needs to get together and discuss each player's responsibilities to the team before asking Timo to challenge. Its a club issue.

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Watching first half I think Campbell at 5/8th nulifys a lot of his attack, as he has to play shape. I’d like to see a change in second half with AJ into 5/8th and JC back to fullback

Fullback allows AJ to play both sides of the ball.
 
a quality required in all captains is trust of their team mates. Stimson ran at Tino and was extremely adamant. Cant blame Tino for the challenge.

The whole team needs to get together and discuss each player's responsibilities to the team before asking Timo to challenge. Its a club issue.

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Fullback allows AJ to play both sides of the ball.

The conundrum with JC and AJ is what is the best positions for the team overall. There is no doubt that AJ is the better fullback and 5/8 than JC. The issue is whether the 1AJ and 6 JC is stronger for the team overall than 1 JC and 6 AJ. I would tend to think that the latter is better for the team overall IMO.
 
Anyone see Kini as a potential centre option? Just throwing it out there because I have no idea how he would go defending in the line.
 
AJ brings way more positives at 1 right now imo, JC has played 2 games at 6, I think he'll be fine going forward and AJ is still a fair way ahead of JC at fb.
 
A win is a win. AJ’s efforts make a mockery of JC’s at fb, there is no comparison, however, Foran gets the 6 for the first 30 then JC takes over. Verrills and Randall allows us to ditch Leeming and Clark. Jojo replaces Schoupp and somebody replaces Kelly who got stripped twice, run around thrice, looked like a turnstile and basically nullified Lofi.

This is the game I watched. Schoupp wasn't impressive, BK is BK and Clark whilst not terrible last night has better men in the waiting
 
That young Bula from the TIgers has been very impressive since he came into NRL a few weeks back and again last night with 226 metres and was hard to stop. Only just turned 21 and a Gold Coast junior
 
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