DIEHARD
Administrator
WESTS TIGERS vs TITANS
Sunday 1 July 2018 Leichhardt Oval
Sunday 1 July 2018 Leichhardt Oval
Round 16: WESTS TIGERS vs TITANS
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JunctionBlock
Moderator
At Leichardt! At least we'll see Moses again and possibly Robbie Farah if the rumours are true.
DIEHARD
Administrator
Nothing is ever straight forward, without a few twists for the Titans coming up against teams.
I reckon if you looked at all the games historically you'd come up with a many interesting instances.
I dunno like the time we beat the Storm and the next week they got busted for the salary cap in 2010.
I reckon if you looked at all the games historically you'd come up with a many interesting instances.
I dunno like the time we beat the Storm and the next week they got busted for the salary cap in 2010.
Mr Bods
Inactive User
Going to need a most committed effort at Leichhardt
DIEHARD
Administrator
Heavy loss won't define Tigers' season: Cleary
https://www.nrl.com/
Wests Tigers coach Ivan Cleary had no answers for the side's mental lapse that enabled Canberra to pile on 44 unanswered points but hinted the club's schedule of 15 games in a row may have taken its toll.
The Raiders ran in seven second-half tries in 35 minutes to run riot in Campbelltown heading into next week's bye – the first break for the Tigers since the beginning of the season.
With a strong defensive record prior to the game, Cleary remained optimistic despite the blowout result.
"That's not going to defy our season," Cleary said.
"The end of the game that's more mental than technical and physical. Once we lost contact with the game we lost focus as a group and as individuals.
"We pretty much didn't come out of the sheds in the second half. When you finish like that it's certainly not what we've been about. It's all well and good talking about it but all you can do is get back to training and put on a decent show next time."
The Tigers will receive a boost on Monday with the addition of Bulldogs fullback Moses Mbye to the squad.
Where Cleary plays Mbye will be a decision made in the lead-up to their next home game against the Gold Coast Titans on July 1.
Josh Reynolds is expected to return from a hamstring injury but the side may have lost Mahe Fonua for an extended period, with fears he has a broken arm.
"It's not looking great, we'll go sort it out and see how we go," Cleary said.
The Tigers could also land former club legend Robbie Farah before the June 30 deadline but Cleary was in no mood to discuss the possibility on Sunday night.
https://www.nrl.com/
Wests Tigers coach Ivan Cleary had no answers for the side's mental lapse that enabled Canberra to pile on 44 unanswered points but hinted the club's schedule of 15 games in a row may have taken its toll.
The Raiders ran in seven second-half tries in 35 minutes to run riot in Campbelltown heading into next week's bye – the first break for the Tigers since the beginning of the season.
With a strong defensive record prior to the game, Cleary remained optimistic despite the blowout result.
"That's not going to defy our season," Cleary said.
"The end of the game that's more mental than technical and physical. Once we lost contact with the game we lost focus as a group and as individuals.
"We pretty much didn't come out of the sheds in the second half. When you finish like that it's certainly not what we've been about. It's all well and good talking about it but all you can do is get back to training and put on a decent show next time."
The Tigers will receive a boost on Monday with the addition of Bulldogs fullback Moses Mbye to the squad.
Where Cleary plays Mbye will be a decision made in the lead-up to their next home game against the Gold Coast Titans on July 1.
Josh Reynolds is expected to return from a hamstring injury but the side may have lost Mahe Fonua for an extended period, with fears he has a broken arm.
"It's not looking great, we'll go sort it out and see how we go," Cleary said.
The Tigers could also land former club legend Robbie Farah before the June 30 deadline but Cleary was in no mood to discuss the possibility on Sunday night.
DavidBouveng
Coach
Moses in, but Mahe out.
I think we are good to go - we have competed with Storm, roosters and some good sides for long parts recently, forwards are beginning to hum, Proctor and Ash are in the best form over last month than i've seen from them for 18 months, plus brenko adding strike, Peats back, our Origin holy Triumvirate of Arrow, James, and Wallace always perform.... i think the last 1/3 of season we can be really good nuisance value leading into a great off season, where we add Tyrone Roberts, Peachey, Shannon Boyd...
lookout tigers, we coming to piss all over your bus
I think we are good to go - we have competed with Storm, roosters and some good sides for long parts recently, forwards are beginning to hum, Proctor and Ash are in the best form over last month than i've seen from them for 18 months, plus brenko adding strike, Peats back, our Origin holy Triumvirate of Arrow, James, and Wallace always perform.... i think the last 1/3 of season we can be really good nuisance value leading into a great off season, where we add Tyrone Roberts, Peachey, Shannon Boyd...
lookout tigers, we coming to piss all over your bus
Mr Bods
Inactive User
^^^ you had me buzzing until you said “Tyrone Roberts”
Actually I need to strongly re-iterate that if LG is shafted for of all people Tyrone Roberts it’s really going to burn me badly. It can’t happen and if it has I wonder if it can be stopped?
Actually I need to strongly re-iterate that if LG is shafted for of all people Tyrone Roberts it’s really going to burn me badly. It can’t happen and if it has I wonder if it can be stopped?
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DavidBouveng
Coach
could have been worse, i could have said 'Tyrone Roberts.....Davis'
Mr Bods
Inactive User
I’m so upset and scared that I just emailed the club. Which is something I try my hardest not to do these days.
At least I know I’ve tried.
Titanic Believer
QLD Cup
Re:Mbye, How often do you play a team one week and the next game play them again?
Titans: 1 Michael Gordon, 2 Anthony Don, 3 Dale Copley, 4 Brenko Lee, 5 Phillip Sami, 6 AJ Brimson, 7 Ashley Taylor, 8 Jarrod Wallace, 9 Nathan Peats, 10 Ryan James (c), 11 Kevin Proctor, 12 Keegan Hipgrave, 13 Jai Arrow
Interchange: 14 Mitch Rein, 15 Will Matthews, 16 Moeaki Fotuaika, 17 Jack Stockwell
Reserves: 18 Morgan Boyle, 19 Konrad Hurrell, 20 Kane Elgey, 21 Bryce Cartwright, 22 Leilaniu Latu
Jarrod Wallace returns from suspension at prop pushing Jack Stockwell to the bench and Morgan Boyle to the reserves.
Interchange: 14 Mitch Rein, 15 Will Matthews, 16 Moeaki Fotuaika, 17 Jack Stockwell
Reserves: 18 Morgan Boyle, 19 Konrad Hurrell, 20 Kane Elgey, 21 Bryce Cartwright, 22 Leilaniu Latu
Jarrod Wallace returns from suspension at prop pushing Jack Stockwell to the bench and Morgan Boyle to the reserves.
JunctionBlock
Moderator
Mass changes for the Tigers so hopefully we can catch them in disarray.
Mr Bods
Inactive User
That’s the way Brennan make sure you don’t give LG a recall and a chance to earn a new contract. Great stuff.
teke
Coach
I really dont think LG is waiting on the titans, his value is much better elsewhere in the world. Id say he's gone on to greener pastures
Manly has let Hastings go with immediate effect. Think he might get a look in at Brookvale?
DIEHARD
Administrator
Wests Tigers v Titans: Farah comes home, Wallace comes back
https://www.nrl.com/
Crunch time has come early for the Tigers. Thrashed by the Raiders a fortnight ago, the Wests Tigers struggled without Benji Marshall and Josh Reynolds and looked a lot like the bottom eight team almost everyone tipped them to be at the start of the season.
The loss left them in 10th spot with a 7-8 record and everyone is waiting to see if it was a one-off or pretty much what we can expect from the Tigers for the rest of the season.
Playing at their spiritual home Leichhardt Oval on Sunday should give them a lift, but they will definitely lose if they go in thinking their opponents will be pushovers.
The Titans are 11th on the ladder with five wins from 14 games, though they showed with the round 15 road win over the Bulldogs that they can't be taken lightly. Coach Garth Brennan appears to have finally settled on a 17-man team he can rely on and the players look like they're not second-guessing themselves as much anymore.
The Titans are capable of playing a spoiler role in the run to the play-offs.
Key match-up: Moses Mbye is tipped to make his debut in Tigers colours and should add an exciting new dimension to the Tigers' attack. There's probably not too much Ivan Cleary can drum into Mbye in terms of the team play-book so the former Bulldogs fullback will probably just play it by ear. The Titans are hoping their own fullback Michael Gordon emulates his round 15 man of the match performance against the Bulldogs.
For the Tigers to win: Benji Marshall is sidelined for another week or two and Josh Reynolds is no certainty to return from a hamstring injury, leaving Luke Brooks to shoulder most of the playmaking duties. Brooks will be hoping Mbye and Tigers returnee Robbie Farah can help ease his load.
For the Titans to win: Based on the Tigers' insipid round 15 effort against the Raiders, the Titans should look to dominate up front. They punched regular holes in the middle and on the edges of Canterbury's defence and should try similar tactics against the Tigers. Brennan also needs an inspired performance from his inconsistent backs.
Tigers Stat Attack: The club will be aiming for their 200th victory in the history of the joint venture at Leichhardt Oval. The Tigers joined the NRL in 2000.
Titans Stat Attack: Gold Coast have the advantage coming into this match having won four of their past five games against the Tigers.
And another thing: Mid-season Tigers signings Mbye and Farah will be part of a rare rugby league milestone against the Titans. Mbye's last game for the Bulldogs was against the Titans a fortnight ago while Farah's final game for the Rabbitohs was also against the Titans three weeks ago. Tigers coach Ivan Cleary might have a word to his new recruits this week for some inside information.
Wests Tigers: 1 Moses Mbye, 2 Malakai Watene-Zelezniak, 3 Esan Marsters, 4 Kevin Naiqama, 5 Corey Thompson, 6 Josh Reynolds, 7 Luke Brooks, 8 Russell Packer (c), 9 Robbie Farah, 10 Ben Matulino, 11 Chris Lawrence, 12 Josh Aloisi, 13 Elijah Taylor
Interchange: 14 Alex Twal, 15 Suaso Sue, 16 Michael Chee Kam, 17 Matt Eisenhuth
Reserves: 18 Tyson Gamble, 19 Robbie Rochow, 20 Tim Grant, 21 Chris McQueen
New recruits Robbie Farah and Moses Mbye start at hooker and fullback respectively. Mahe Fonua (broken arm) is out with Kevin Naiqama shifting in to centre and Corey Thompson moving from fullback to wing. Josh Reynolds (shoulder) returns at five-eighth for Tyson Gamble. Elijah Taylor starts at lock, Josh Aloiai starts in the back row, Robbie Rochow drops to the reserves and Matt Eisenhuth and Sauaso Sue are on the bench.
Titans: 1 Michael Gordon, 2 Anthony Don, 3 Dale Copley, 4 Brenko Lee, 5 Phillip Sami, 6 AJ Brimson, 7 Ashley Taylor, 8 Jarrod Wallace, 9 Nathan Peats, 10 Ryan James (c), 11 Kevin Proctor, 12 Keegan Hipgrave, 13 Jai Arrow
Interchange: 14 Mitch Rein, 15 Will Matthews, 16 Moeaki Fotuaika, 17 Jack Stockwell
Reserves: 18 Morgan Boyle, 19 Konrad Hurrell, 20 Kane Elgey, 21 Bryce Cartwright, 22 Leilani Latu
Jarrod Wallace returns from suspension at prop pushing Jack Stockwell to the bench and Morgan Boyle to the reserves.
Steve Turner's prediction: It's a new-look Tigers this weekend, with Moses Mbye's first outing in his new colours and the return of Robbie Farah. The two additions will provide plenty of options in attack for the Tigers and provide much needed help for Luke Brooks. The Titans come into the fixture with plenty of confidence after their impressive win over the Bulldogs. Ash Taylor and AJ Brimson have been impressive and their partnership will only get better. They will be up against on Sunday the Gold Coast, but the only way to shut the crowd out is score more points and worry about themselves.
TIP: Tigers by 4
https://www.nrl.com/
Crunch time has come early for the Tigers. Thrashed by the Raiders a fortnight ago, the Wests Tigers struggled without Benji Marshall and Josh Reynolds and looked a lot like the bottom eight team almost everyone tipped them to be at the start of the season.
The loss left them in 10th spot with a 7-8 record and everyone is waiting to see if it was a one-off or pretty much what we can expect from the Tigers for the rest of the season.
Playing at their spiritual home Leichhardt Oval on Sunday should give them a lift, but they will definitely lose if they go in thinking their opponents will be pushovers.
The Titans are 11th on the ladder with five wins from 14 games, though they showed with the round 15 road win over the Bulldogs that they can't be taken lightly. Coach Garth Brennan appears to have finally settled on a 17-man team he can rely on and the players look like they're not second-guessing themselves as much anymore.
The Titans are capable of playing a spoiler role in the run to the play-offs.
Key match-up: Moses Mbye is tipped to make his debut in Tigers colours and should add an exciting new dimension to the Tigers' attack. There's probably not too much Ivan Cleary can drum into Mbye in terms of the team play-book so the former Bulldogs fullback will probably just play it by ear. The Titans are hoping their own fullback Michael Gordon emulates his round 15 man of the match performance against the Bulldogs.
For the Tigers to win: Benji Marshall is sidelined for another week or two and Josh Reynolds is no certainty to return from a hamstring injury, leaving Luke Brooks to shoulder most of the playmaking duties. Brooks will be hoping Mbye and Tigers returnee Robbie Farah can help ease his load.
For the Titans to win: Based on the Tigers' insipid round 15 effort against the Raiders, the Titans should look to dominate up front. They punched regular holes in the middle and on the edges of Canterbury's defence and should try similar tactics against the Tigers. Brennan also needs an inspired performance from his inconsistent backs.
Tigers Stat Attack: The club will be aiming for their 200th victory in the history of the joint venture at Leichhardt Oval. The Tigers joined the NRL in 2000.
Titans Stat Attack: Gold Coast have the advantage coming into this match having won four of their past five games against the Tigers.
And another thing: Mid-season Tigers signings Mbye and Farah will be part of a rare rugby league milestone against the Titans. Mbye's last game for the Bulldogs was against the Titans a fortnight ago while Farah's final game for the Rabbitohs was also against the Titans three weeks ago. Tigers coach Ivan Cleary might have a word to his new recruits this week for some inside information.
Wests Tigers: 1 Moses Mbye, 2 Malakai Watene-Zelezniak, 3 Esan Marsters, 4 Kevin Naiqama, 5 Corey Thompson, 6 Josh Reynolds, 7 Luke Brooks, 8 Russell Packer (c), 9 Robbie Farah, 10 Ben Matulino, 11 Chris Lawrence, 12 Josh Aloisi, 13 Elijah Taylor
Interchange: 14 Alex Twal, 15 Suaso Sue, 16 Michael Chee Kam, 17 Matt Eisenhuth
Reserves: 18 Tyson Gamble, 19 Robbie Rochow, 20 Tim Grant, 21 Chris McQueen
New recruits Robbie Farah and Moses Mbye start at hooker and fullback respectively. Mahe Fonua (broken arm) is out with Kevin Naiqama shifting in to centre and Corey Thompson moving from fullback to wing. Josh Reynolds (shoulder) returns at five-eighth for Tyson Gamble. Elijah Taylor starts at lock, Josh Aloiai starts in the back row, Robbie Rochow drops to the reserves and Matt Eisenhuth and Sauaso Sue are on the bench.
Titans: 1 Michael Gordon, 2 Anthony Don, 3 Dale Copley, 4 Brenko Lee, 5 Phillip Sami, 6 AJ Brimson, 7 Ashley Taylor, 8 Jarrod Wallace, 9 Nathan Peats, 10 Ryan James (c), 11 Kevin Proctor, 12 Keegan Hipgrave, 13 Jai Arrow
Interchange: 14 Mitch Rein, 15 Will Matthews, 16 Moeaki Fotuaika, 17 Jack Stockwell
Reserves: 18 Morgan Boyle, 19 Konrad Hurrell, 20 Kane Elgey, 21 Bryce Cartwright, 22 Leilani Latu
Jarrod Wallace returns from suspension at prop pushing Jack Stockwell to the bench and Morgan Boyle to the reserves.
Steve Turner's prediction: It's a new-look Tigers this weekend, with Moses Mbye's first outing in his new colours and the return of Robbie Farah. The two additions will provide plenty of options in attack for the Tigers and provide much needed help for Luke Brooks. The Titans come into the fixture with plenty of confidence after their impressive win over the Bulldogs. Ash Taylor and AJ Brimson have been impressive and their partnership will only get better. They will be up against on Sunday the Gold Coast, but the only way to shut the crowd out is score more points and worry about themselves.
TIP: Tigers by 4
JunctionBlock
Moderator
Updated team list have Chris McQueen in the 17 at the moment. Ben Matulino dropped off