Round 22: TITANS vs PANTHERS

Hindsight’s a wonderful thing but a few repeat sets in the last 10 mins would’ve been nice.

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What made it worse was some drunk panthers fan yelling out “we’re the comeback kings”.

Should have told him you didn't want to hear about his sex life.
 
Ash was our third best half behind our fullback and the Q Cup kid.

That drop goal was lazy and such poor game management. He wanted the quick fix and not to work hard for 2 moinutes 3 seconds more till half time.

from 40+ metres it needs to be a smart kick to corner and make them go 95 metres in 6 tackles, instead of going 80 in 7.

Unless you are an elite field goal exponent - a pot shot from 40 is just awful. the better teams have evolved past that and we wont be one until we start playing smart which comes back to a lack of coaching for the end game or lack of discipline / execution.

Beyond furious as its just sort of summing up Ash in a nutshell right now. AJ is making him look second rate.

Elgey looked decent except for the trash defence at the end, but Ash also got walked over for Kikau to set up the match winner.

AJ was immense in every respect. His defence at the back on the line was at tenacious and effective as we have EVER had. hayne didnt care enough and Zillman wasnt good enough. AJ has the ambition, the guts, the determination and the willpower to bring down guys much bigger or at least hold the ball up. couldnt be more impressed with him, and if he keeps this up for the last few games could walk away with the Paul Broughton Medal. James and Arrow were early contenders but have fallen away since Origin.

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that said - AJ is good everywhere so im still not sold on him being FB over 5/8th, but it was a good audition.

Im not going to give it too much thought, just good to know after the Zillman / Hayne days we have 3 FB's for next year that could do a good job.
 
Stats don't really indicate "we were the better team". There were two incompetent teams but one knows how to win and that's what the game is about.

Good to see AJ at FB and Elgey get a chance again. its the only meaning I could get out of the game, win or lose. Although, the spoon is looming. If we cant win a game like that when will we?

Hurrel has an uncanny ability to stuff things up at critical times...
Fotuaika is our best frontrower by a country mile.
 
Stats don't really indicate "we were the better team". There were two incompetent teams but one knows how to win and that's what the game is about.

Good to see AJ at FB and Elgey get a chance again. its the only meaning I could get out of the game, win or lose. Although, the spoon is looming. If we cant win a game like that when will we?

Hurrel has an uncanny ability to stuff things up at critical times...
Fotuaika is our best frontrower by a country mile.

AJ, Mofo and Sami are this years absolute standout stories for us, as well as Arrow obviously.

but AJ and Mofo are teenagers showing their origin fancied elders how its done
 
^^^ yeah I’d like to compare Penrith’s ages with ours and The Drongoes ages too
I don’t think the excuse cuts it one bit
I wish he wouldn’t say it
Footballers love excuses
Stop Playing with my head Garth!!
 
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"It's a bump in the journey and we'll learn from that..." Not sure what a losing coach is supposed to say.

Michael Gordon dislocated wrist that required surgery to put back in.
 
I enjoyed the game and they were that close to beating a top 4 side. They also showed a glimpse of AJ at fb for next yr
 
Dare I say the AJ / Elgey combo (even with AJ at FB like he was in his last few games of Qcup) could have worked if we didn't choose to get rid of Elgey. They looked really comfortable playing together in those games that I saw too. ATay is the elephant in the room and I have no idea what we can do about him.
 
Fact remains both LG and Ash can’t tackle. Both were at fault for the last two tries that cost us the game.

Brimson on the other hand...
 
Does anyone know why we leave KP out there for 80 minutes but our left side goes through two or three changes on that edge defender?

As we spoke about last week, Ash needs the club to get some external help on a semi permanent base to really help his on field dilemas.

The club also needs to demand from him what we are paying for, which is the same for a few of our players that aren't even in the NRL squad.
 
Does anyone know why we leave KP out there for 80 minutes but our left side goes through two or three changes on that edge defender?

As we spoke about last week, Ash needs the club to get some external help on a semi permanent base to really help his on field dilemas.

The club also needs to demand from him what we are paying for, which is the same for a few of our players that aren't even in the NRL squad.

I could be wrong but I think 2 interchanges are used per game on the left edge. Once when Hipgrave goes off and once when he returns.
I’ll say it till I’m blue in the face but I’d love to see Proctor/James as our 2nd rows and we attempt to (barring injury) use all of our interchanges on the middle of the field quartet.
James has the tank and skill set to play 80 mins on that edge and he can really then wind up and use his quality with each carry.
 
Sitting in the stands, counting tackles, just one more and they to have to run it ... they do and we jersey grab ... enjoyed the game though.
 
I’ll say it till I’m blue in the face but I’d love to see Proctor/James as our 2nd rows and we attempt to (barring injury) use all of our interchanges on the middle of the field quartet.
James has the tank and skill set to play 80 mins on that edge and he can really then wind up and use his quality with each carry.

The fox commentators asked Henry during the game what James's best position was and he said that he lacked the leg speed to be a top edge forward but at prop he can go all day and use his strength better.
I like James in the middle as he does a lot of the clean up work that goes unnoticed and you can tell if he goes off as the middle isn't as stiff in defence.
 
I'll have to catch up on the game and this thread. Devastated we couldn't win this on. Obviously I thoughtfully scheduled my wedding for kick off time. But was getting score updates off people. While we were taking photos it was looking promising, then into golden point time.

On the issue of "young teams" I always hated the "Baby Broncos" excuse which really got overused. Yea when the term came to use it had meaning, but now they just aren't supplying that number of players to the Origin teams, so I put that in the cop out basket.
 
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